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  1. I am pretty sure you will be paged. Turned. Possibly bound. Maybe stapled. But don't quote me. Trudy
  2. I am well into Probable Future by Alice Hoffman on CD I have started the following books: An Artist of the Floating World by Kazuo Ishiguro White Noise by Don DeLillo Empire Falls by Richard Russo A House for Mr. Biswas by V. S. Naipaul The Tattooed Girl by Joyce Carol Oates Recently finished: Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy The Body Artist Oryx and Crake Blessings Cloud Atlas
  3. I just checked in to see what condition my condition was in.... Yeh yeh yeh.... what condition my condition was in... I think I typed in Books Groups Online in my browser and the rest was history. I have been reading with others and discussing books for a couple of years in groups at Yahoo and Oprah. This is different and fun! Trudy
  4. I loved it!!! What a wonderfully weird story. Sorry, I didn't come back in and comment on it after I was done. I probably forgot I said anything to begin with - I get lost wandering around here!! LOL I got the book from the library so I no longer have it with me. Do you belong to any reading groups at Yahoo? The group that I read with there had a nice discussion on the book and of Angela Carter. Still I can look up some links on line and remind my self of names and such and would be tickled to chat with you about this book and this author. Trudy (Winterwren)
  5. Does this mean that I will now need to start a thread to report book abuse? Trudy
  6. I think what you are talking about is the birthmark that is shaped like a comet, not an actual tatoo. I guess indicating that in some way all the characters may have been related to one another. Trudy
  7. How about "The Pub"? Well, I like it! By the way Bill, I ordered a book (CD) from B & N using the link here. I haven't ever done that before and I didn't see anything that said anything about the site getting credit. Shouldn't there be some kind of a little blurb or something so you know you did what you meant to do? I mean no skin off my chin - I pay the same either way! But I'd be happy for the site to get "credit" for a book I was going to buy anyway to help defer your costs. Just curious. Trudy
  8. 2. Compare the three female characters—the mundane and muddled Hartley, the demure and clinging Lizzie, and the fierce and implacable Rosina—in their attitudes toward love and their approaches to Charles. Are any of them free? Do they seek freedom? Compare Murdoch's depiction of them with her handling of the male characters. Is sexual difference and "the nature of women" a theme in the book? 3. Charles repeatedly and self-consciously draws attention to the diary/ memoir format of his writing, contrasting it to his previous writings, which were "written in water." In fact his withdrawing to Shruff End to write his memoir provides the very foundation and center of everything that happens in the novel. How does Murdoch use the natural self-absorption of this medium to render a view of Charles that he himself does not have access to? What are other examples of his self-absorption? 4. The specter of demons, fates, and controlling forces are sprinkled throughout the novel. What are some of the examples of these "relentless mechanisms"? What is their significance? Is The Sea, The Sea a fatalistic novel? What examples might counter this assertion?
  9. Well. That really sounds okay to me, too. But some questions just don't get answered. How about I post all the questions I can think of here at this thread? You post questions here too! Then find one that really looks interesting and we could make a new thread with it. The only thing that I was thinking was with only a few people reading and discussing the book you sure could end up with a lot of different threads for one book - and maybe that's okay. It just seemed a bit much to me. Anyway, I truly don't really much care - talking about the book is what is rewarding and I can adapt pretty easily to what ever happens, I think. SO I will post more questions here and then you decide what you want to do when you pop back in - what ever it is, I will be in favor of it! I am really glad that you enjoyed the book. Trudy
  10. Hello Claire! Am I supposed to know what I am doing? Well, I have no idea. I was thinking that it might be easier to keep questions in one place but then again I wasn't sure. In the long run I just decided to jump in and post a question and see what happens. What do you think is best? Trudy (Winterwren)
  11. These questions are taken from the Reading Guides site. 1. Charles's house, Shruff End, is in many ways a character in its own right. Intricately described, the house is explicitly referred to as gloomy and cave-like and can in many ways stand as a metaphor for Charles's own mind. What are some of the ways that events and features in Shruff End indicate Charles's mental state?
  12. Loved your post!!! Isn't Charles just too much? I totally understand and agree with what you are saying about him. He is SUCH a theater person - a regular drama king. And I love Shruff End!!! What an interesting and great setting! One of the things that I really like about Murdoch's writing is that for me every 'scene' is so visible. I keep thinking how her stories would make a great movie or play. I think that is true of this one also. I am glad you are enjoying it. I had better get busy and catch up with you. I have been reading just a little of this while reading other things because I wasn't sure when everyone was going to start on it.
  13. I am just now reading this book for a discussion group at Yahoo. It was really due to be finished by Feb 1 but I got the book late. I had some trouble locating it at my local libraries. I was so surprised to see you post. I had never heard of this author before and I am enjoying the book! As I get further along I will add some comments. Did you just read it recently?
  14. Toliken: Lord of the Rings Toliken: The Hobbit Byatt: Possession: A Romance Donaldsen: The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant, The Unbeliever Jackson: The Haunting of Hill House Morrison: Beloved Lee: To Kill A Mockingbird McMurtry: Lonesome Dove Nabokov: Lolita McCammon: Boy's Life First stab at 10 of my favorite reads. All very different, I think, but what they have in common is great story telling and unforgettable characters.
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