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Nick
13th December 2004, 06:01 PM
If you don't have the book you can buy it from only £2.85 at abebooks.co.uk
Otherwise I suggest bookbrain.co.uk

To get us started, here's the blurb about Longley and the book:
"The poems collected in Snow Water find their gravity and centre in Michael Longley's adopted home in west Mayo, but range widely in their attention - from ancient Greece to Paris and Pisa, from Central Park to the trenches of the Somme. Meditations on nature and mortality, there is a depth and delicacy to these poems, a state of lucid wonder, that allows for the easy companionship of love poem and elegy, hymns to marriage and friendship and lyric explorations of loss. Though the embodiment of these themes is often found in the wildlife of Carrigskeewaun and Allaran Point - the plovers and oystercatchers, whooper swans and snow geese, the hares and otters, the marsh marigolds and yellow flags - Snow Water is emphatically a celebration of humanity. These are all, in a way, poems of love and kinship - even the magnificent sequence that links the horrors of the Great War with those of the Trojan War, and with all the wars between. What Longley says of Edward Thomas might easily be said of him: 'The nature poet turned into a war poet as if/He could cure death with the rub of a dock leaf'. Full of intensity and grace, tenderness and wisdom, these are poems of deceptive simplicity from a craftsman of international stature."

The first poem is 'Overhead':

The beech tree looks circular from overhead
With its own little cumulus of exhaltations.
Can you spot my skull under the nearby roof,
Its bald patch, the poem-cloud hanging there?


This is a great entrance to the book - almost a programmatic poem in the style of the Classics he emulates elsewhere. We seem to zoom in on his home and him, searching him out, to begin the book, to be drawn into his world. It is only two simple sentences, one descriptive, the other asking. The question itself, I think rather like Frost's 'The Pasture', again invites us inwards. The richness of the tree seems deliberately contrasted with the bald head, but we are given the word 'looks' as a hint to what may not be true. This poem has a lot in common with 'Thaw' by Edward Thomas (one of Longley's acknowledged influences). There we have the same view of the world from above, although for different purposes.

There's a lot to discuss just in the two lines of this poem. So I'll hope others can join in.

Bill
16th December 2004, 05:37 PM
Here is the link for Michael Longley's Snow Water. Don't panic if the link says £26.17, which is for an expensive edition - sometimes it says £5.73 and you can buy it for that price.

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Sue
18th December 2004, 08:00 PM
I have just got my copy of the book and, on a quick skim, like the poems. with the very first one Nick discusses above, I am wondering about his use of the word 'skull' - and then referring to its bald patch. Could be a bit menacing but need to read more.

Leishalynn
28th December 2004, 08:28 PM
Right. With "Overhead" we're dropping in from the sky, casually, haphazardly choosing the subject of our poetic journey--someone whose skull is under a nearby roof.

Honestly, it reminds me of Hitchcock zooming in through a random window to reveal a person, Any Person, beginning an adventure.

Barbara
29th December 2004, 02:33 PM
Right. With "Overhead" we're dropping in from the sky, casually, haphazardly choosing the subject of our poetic journey--someone whose skull is under a nearby roof.

Honestly, it reminds me of Hitchcock zooming in through a random window to reveal a person, Any Person, beginning an adventure.

I liked the link of "cumulus of exhalations" with "a poem-cloud" - thought that humorous in a sort of self-deprecating way. I get a feeling of looking down on a beech tree that is giving off oxygen and on a person sitting under a overhanging roof giving off a poem.

Sue
7th January 2005, 09:47 PM
I find it helps to keep dipping in to these poems. Gradually getting a feel for the world he describes and thinks about.

EllaMcC
15th January 2005, 10:51 PM
Hi Poetry Book Club,

Just found you tonight, and oddly, I just bought this book last week. I am setting about reading, but I think that I will stick with the "one poem" idea for in depth thought. Is there another book planned that I should prepare to purchase? (Being in the US, I'm hunting and pecking for the best deal here.)

Anyway, I'm thrilled to find this group. I've been wanting to find a poetry book club forever, and here you are!

Be well all, Ella

Nick
22nd January 2005, 10:30 PM
Is there another book planned that I should prepare to purchase?

I suggest 'Corpus' by Michael Symmons Roberts, just won the Whitbread Poetry Book of the Year over here. But if anyone has any other ideas we could always vote again.