Lost - Series 3

[megustaleer]

Restored thread

Tess
17th November 2006 09:29 AM

Lost - Series 3
*
And so it begins again on Sunday...

Who's planning on watching this? I think I may tape it, I'm sure they can't be but Sky One adverts always seem that much longer and the one they always squeeze in, five minutes from the end, just makes me crazy.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

David
17th November 2006 10:34 AM

I shall have to watch this on DVD, I'm afraid! Won't be looking at this thread again for a long time.

:grumble:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Tess
17th November 2006 11:12 AM

I take it you don't have Sky
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hazel
17th November 2006 11:14 AM
Originally Posted by David
I shall have to watch this on DVD, I'm afraid! Won't be looking at this thread again for a long time.
Snap, snap and double snap. I am EXTREMELY dissappointed with Channel 4.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Tess
17th November 2006 02:21 PM

NOOOOOO

There can't be any Lost discussion without both of you!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Opal
17th November 2006 04:19 PM

Awww... Poor Tess! If it's any consolation I've seen the first six eps in season three and they're well worth waiting for! :p
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

David
17th November 2006 04:49 PM
Originally Posted by Opal
If it's any consolation I've seen the first six eps in season three and they're well worth waiting for!

You're not helping!

Nah, only joking, Opal! I'm glad they're keeping up the standard and I shall indeed look forward to it. I'll also come back and post when I've seen them, Tess, though I guess it won't be the same as the ongoing episode-by-episode discussions - I'll miss those myself.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

donnae
17th November 2006 05:19 PM

I confess that I have never watched a single episode of Lost. It's my birthday soon, do you all think it would be a good idea to request the first series on DVD? It is one I think I would enjoy, but I just never found the time to watch it. The threads were always certainly very busy when you were all watching it.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

David
17th November 2006 05:41 PM
Originally Posted by donnae
do you all think it would be a good idea to request the first series on DVD? It is one I think I would enjoy, but I just never found the time to watch it.

It depends on what you enjoy, Donna! Plenty of us enjoy it but there are others who lost faith along the way and stopped watching - largely, I think, because it became clear that the answers to the mysteries were going to take many seasons to be resolved.

Like most long series it has its low points where you have to tread water for a few episodes, but then it gets back on form with a vengeance! It's not about deep characterisation - there are too many characters for that - and relies more on ideas, patterns and above all mystery. Lots of tension, plenty of surprises and - as you've noticed - a great deal to discuss!

I'd recommend it, but then obviously I really enjoy it. Perhaps someone who stopped watching could give a counter-view?
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

MarkC
17th November 2006 06:22 PM

I stopped watching part way into season 2. It's hard to say why, I know that I don't have a problem with answers not coming quickly, I'm a huge fan of Babylon 5 for example and it was well into the third season of that before many things became clear.

Maybe my ability to suspend disbelief, at least in a contemporary setting, was exhausted. Maybe Sawyer just irritated me once to often or maybe it was one of the "treading water" phases (very apt description). One week I missed it and I found that I was simply not bothered.

If I were still watching it the transfer to Sky wouldn't be an issue. Sky falls into category of necessity, for Battlestar Galactica, Motors TV and the speedway on sky sports
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

David
17th November 2006 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by MarkC
...for Battlestar Galactica
I have to rely on DVD for that too! Best sci-fi in years. Used to have Sky but moved to a dish-free zone (they'd already made an exception to let me move in - aha..ahahaha!)

*awkward silence - tumbleweed drifts across screen*

Ahem. Yes... well. I miss it, that would be the essential point here...
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Sara
17th November 2006 08:26 PM
Originally Posted by MarkC
I stopped watching part way into season 2. It's hard to say why, I know that I don't have a problem with answers not coming quickly, I'm a huge fan of Babylon 5 for example and it was well into the third season of that before many things became clear.

Maybe my ability to suspend disbelief, at least in a contemporary setting, was exhausted. Maybe Sawyer just irritated me once to often or maybe it was one of the "treading water" phases (very apt description). One week I missed it and I found that I was simply not bothered.

Unfortunately I'm still watching it. I'm about to give up, it really has dipped in quality since season one. I'm not going to bother with it on Sky, I'll stick with Torchwood.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Barblue
17th November 2006 09:50 PM
Originally Posted by MarkC
Sky falls into category of necessity, for ... speedway on sky sports

I know nothing about the series of Lost but you certainly arrested my attention with the mention of speedway. I love Sky's coverage of this sport. Nice to meet another fan.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Opal
18th November 2006 09:58 AM
Originally Posted by Sara
Unfortunately I'm still watching it. I'm about to give up, it really has dipped in quality since season one. I'm not going to bother with it on Sky, I'll stick with Torchwood.
Torchwood. Now there's something I'll happily cancel doing anything else to watch! Better plots and not quite as unbelievable as Lost... which is a little odd I guess, but really, magical hidden islands or aliens? I know which one I can believe is real...
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

David
18th November 2006 12:33 PM
Originally Posted by Opal
Torchwood. Now there's something I'll happily cancel doing anything else to watch!

Ooooh, now you see I've been a tad disappointed with that, Opal. The recent fairy episode was pretty good, but otherwise I've thought a lot of the plotting, characterisation and development have been on the ropey side. Above all - and I know this sounds daft considering the obvious subject matter - but it lacks credibility. Once you accept the premise of aliens, the Torchwood set-up needs to work within its own terms but I'm not sure it does. Just one example: they're in an ultra-secure unit packed with technology etc., and there's a cyberwoman being kept downstairs that no one knows about. Ri-i-ight...

I could go on about this, but won't. (Can you sense I'm looking for something else to talk about now I'm being shut out the Lost room?) Anyway, sorry, didn't intend to divert things, and the latest episode was fairy good...;)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[megustaleer]

page 2 of original thread

Mouse
18th November 2006 04:39 PM

I'm really miffed that I can't watch the 3rd series of Lost. Have watched it from the beginning, but haven't got Sky and don't intend to either. Have Freeview, so I can get BBC3 & 4 - liking the Sci-Fi Britannia season.
Will have to resort to the plot spoilers in SFX and wait for the DVD in the library,as I won't buy it either!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

David
18th November 2006 04:55 PM
Originally Posted by Mouse
Will have to resort to the plot spoilers in SFX...

Oh I never do that! It always remains sealed and unread! I'd rather wait. I'm enjoying Sci-Fi Britannia too - the first episode of The Martians and Us was extremely interesting: an excellent overview of British science fiction writing.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

MarkC
18th November 2006 05:33 PM
Originally Posted by David
I'm enjoying Sci-Fi Britannia too

What's this?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

David
18th November 2006 05:50 PM
Originally Posted by MarkC
What's this?
It's a season of programmes on BBC4 celebrating British sci-fi. The Martians and Us is a three part documentary about the subject, whilst there's an extensive run of classic sci-fi, including some of the modern re-makes (They've just done A For Andromeda). So far it's been very good, the first ep. of Martians looking at the birth of modern sci-fi with Wells and concentrating on the fascination with mankind's evolution and what an enduring theme that's been. As you'd expect with BBC4 it's not been dumbed down and there are contributions from real luminaries such as Arthur C. Clarke and Brian Aldiss.

From your previous posts, Mark, I would have thought you'd really enjoy it! I think the second episode of Martians is on Monday, but it's also repeated.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hazel
18th November 2006 07:41 PM

I have watched Episode 1 of Lost S3, and hubby has another 5 ready for me to watch but I am really loathe to. I would much rather wait for the DVD box set to come out, and anyway, hubby got S2 for his birthday so I can relive that all over again!
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

MarkC
18th November 2006 11:23 PM

By sheer co-incidence I had BBC4 on this evening for the program before A for Andromeda , so watched the whole thing. You are correct, right up my street, I'll be setting the video on Monday.

I should read my Radio Times more carefully!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

My Friend Jack
23rd November 2006 01:39 PM

So, that makes about 3 of us that are watching Lost Series 3!

I saw the first 2 last night - very interesting to see the opening scene, the flashback to the time of the plane crash, where we see the Others living an apparently normal life on the island. And at last, I'm beginning to warm to Sawyer...
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Bill
23rd November 2006 02:35 PM
Originally Posted by My Friend Jack
So, that makes about 3 of us that are watching Lost Series 3!

I saw the first 2 last night - very interesting to see the opening scene, the flashback to the time of the plane crash, where we see the Others living an apparently normal life on the island. And at last, I'm beginning to warm to Sawyer...
I will be watching but haven't got around to watching the first two episodes yet.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Tess
23rd November 2006 02:43 PM
Originally Posted by My Friend Jack
I saw the first 2 last night - very interesting to see the opening scene, the flashback to the time of the plane crash, where we see the Others living an apparently normal life on the island.

That was a good opening, and nice to see they are civilised enough to hold a book group! Did anyone catch what the Stephen King was?

The animal cages could explain the polar bear which appeared early in series one, and I laughed when one of the Others mentioned how the bears figured out the fish biscuits faster than Sawyer!
Originally Posted by My Friend Jack
And at last, I'm beginning to warm to Sawyer...
I agree, he seemed genuinely concerned about Kate and was willing to share his food. I assume the kiss was a ploy to fight the Others and suss out their combat skills. A good plan but he should have been more careful what he said to Kate afterwards...they're always listening :ssh:
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Stewart
23rd November 2006 03:58 PM
Originally Posted by Tess
Did anyone catch what the Stephen King was?
Carrie.

I take it that the show has just started on Sky. Need to get that soon. I've seen the first six episodes, much like America, and wonder if Sky will only be showing these six and then resuming in January, like America. Or whether the UK will end up ahead.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

My Friend Jack
23rd November 2006 04:48 PM
Originally Posted by Stewart
I take it that the show has just started on Sky. Need to get that soon. I've seen the first six episodes, much like America, and wonder if Sky will only be showing these six and then resuming in January, like America. Or whether the UK will end up ahead.
I would guess Sky 1 will stop at Christmas for a short break. I hear it's a bit of a cliff-hanger.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Opal
23rd November 2006 04:54 PM
Originally Posted by Stewart
I've seen the first six episodes, much like America, and wonder if Sky will only be showing these six and then resuming in January, like America. Or whether the UK will end up ahead.
I wondered that too, but the UK will have to stop before they catch up - no way is an American show going to air over here first!

And you're right about the cliffhanger... my lil sis phoned me as soon as she'd seen that, then went nuts when I told her that was it til Febraury! :D

So what did you think of it so far Stewart? As good as the previous seasons?
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Stewart
24th November 2006 01:04 AM
Originally Posted by My Friend Jack
I hear it's a bit of a cliff-hanger.
To be honest, I thought the sixth episode was the weakest of the lot. It certainly wasn't the sort of cliffhanger I'd intrigue myself with in the meantime - it just wasn't that good. That said, the revelations over the six episodes were fantastic and open up so much more of the mythology to us as viewers. Only, as you would expect, to leave us with more questions.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Bill
24th November 2006 12:39 PM

David, Hazel and Mouse, your prayers have been answered - as long as you have a fast enough computer...

Lost found on MySpace (from Braodcastnow)
Jane Hoskyn
8:00am
Social networking website MySpace is to stream free episodes from the new season of Lost.

Following a deal with Sky, the first two episodes of the US drama's third season, which began airing on Sky One last week, will be available to view on demand from today (24 November).

The deal makes MySpace the only place that non-Sky subscribers can legally watch the new season of Lost in the UK.

Visitors to the MySpace LostOnSkyOne page will also be able to view season updates, cast interviews and other features.

The deal with Sky was announced by MySpace's managing director for UK and Europe, David Fischer.

Also today, Sky will launch its rebranded legal downloads service, Sky Anytime (formerly Sky By Broadband). Sky One subscribers will be able to pay £2.50 to download and keep Lost episodes as soon as they've aired on TV.

(See this thread for info on MySpace: http://www.bookgrouponline.com/foru...ead.html?t=3065)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

My Friend Jack
5th December 2006 09:54 PM

Cracking episode this week!

One question... how did Sawyer, Jack and Kate end up on a different island?

[megustaleer]

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
page 3 of original thread

megustaleer
5th December 2006 11:00 PM
Originally Posted by My Friend Jack
Cracking episode this week!
One question... how did Sawyer, Jack and Kate end up on a different island?

I've just watched the video recap of series 1&2, at the end of which Sawyer Jack and Kate were captives of The Others, so perhaps "they" took them somewhere else?
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

My Friend Jack
6th December 2006 08:44 PM

Could be, Meg. I can't quite recall what happened at the start of S3, but given the number of flashbacks we get, I imagine we'll find out in S5!
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Sherman_McCoy
16th December 2006 08:34 AM

Having followed Lost through the first two series I lost interest rapidly at the start of the third and now I've just been watching the odd 10 minutes here and there if I happen to see it on. Can someone tell me who those two people are with Desmond? (I no longer care enough to actually watch it but like to know vaguely what's going on!)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

My Friend Jack
19th December 2006 02:03 PM

You mean the blonde girl and the dark-haired guy with the beard? They are 2 of the survivors from the crash that weren't featured in S1 or S2. Don't think we've heard their names yet. They were introduced by John asking for helpers, the girl said she'd help, the guy seemed surprised, and the girl said, "You're always complaining you feel left out, so now's your chance to join in," (or words to that effect).

So we now have to wait until February to see if Sawyer is shot or not...
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Any posts from mid January to mid February will have to be re-written, as there is nothing from those weeks in google's cache

[Starry]

Well I'm kinda watching this by default as I'm DVDing it for my brother and SIL. I do find myself rolling my eyes sometimes though. Last Sunday's episode for example. Des looks at a recruitment picture for the Army and it says "honor". Next shot is one of Big Ben??? Hey producers... how about spelling honour correctly if you want to convince us that Des is in London!!

Or maybe, Des wasn't really in London and that was a little clue ;)

[My Friend Jack]

Did anyone else stay with it to the end? Terrific ending last week - so many questions answered, so many new ones to be answered! I see that there are to be 3 more series of 16 episodes - good news, it means the writers can plan and pace what is still to come.

If anyone else did see the end of season 3, any views on whether the bearded Jack scenes were a warning of what would happen if they were rescued, or do we take it that they were rescued, and season 4 will feature their attempts to return?

[Jeremy DEagle]

I saw it and its so frustrating but I can't stop watching it. Need to go into hibernation now until the new year!

Though there is always heroes to watch I guess.

[David]

I've now completed season 3 from the Sky repeats and on the whole I've enjoyed it a great deal.

To begin with I felt very frustrated. Quite obviously for the series to continue we have to retain the mysteries, but in terms of character credibility it just irked me that no one asked the questions I would have asked. This remained a problem though I perhaps just accepted it more as time went on.

The outstanding parts of this season for me have been Locke, whose personal journey has been fascinating, and Ben, who is an equally intriguing character played to perfection.

I've really missed the discussion we used to have because there's been such a lot to talk about - I can't hope to cover it here and won't attempt to. The nature of the island is clearly at the heart of it: not so much the people on it, but the island's properties. Evidently it can heal (is it impossible to kill Mikhail? Are we going to find that other deaths are not as final as we might have imagined?) but there's also the question of whether it has some sort of identity. When Locke has talked before about what the island wants, maybe that isn't so fanciful. Maybe it is all wrapped up with the mysterious black cloud, which the Others don't seem to understand. I wonder if that also isn't part of the truth behind the mysterious and invisible Isaac?

Anyway, as for the ending...

I thought it was a neat twist to play on our assumptions that this was a normal flashback, when in the end it appears to be in the future. Presumably one of the gang is in the coffin. I actually found myself looking hard in the final scene thinking, "Is that really Kate?" since she did look a little different in the muted light.

It's difficult to see how that's going to play out. If they are rescued then the island has been found and that must surely alter everything. You have to hand it to them - it's a very different sort of twist from the simple revelatory sort we would have expected.

Easy to forget, though, that Walt came to Locke in the pit. What was all that about? I came to this series expecting Michael and Walt to turn up at some point, but of course that didn't happen. Since only a few months has supposedly elapsed they'll have problems reintroducing Walt in the future, since he'll be about ready for university by the end!

Unless, of course, they really have been rescued and there's a significant passage of time before they go back to the island, as Jack said they must...

Hmmmmm.

Well, at least virtually all the next series has been written, so it shouldn't throw things off the rails too much if the American writers' strike drags on for a long time!

[Jeremy DEagle]

I love Lost but find it far more frustrating than Heroes, Dexter etc. The complete lack of almost any answers is so infuriating. Its not due back on Air until some time next year and its been off our screens a couple of months.

Anyway- apparently the body in the box is that of (BEWARE-HUGE SPOILER)

Ben

[David]

Curious as I am, I'm not going to click on that, Jeremy - thanks for keeping it hidden!

[Jeremy DEagle]

I was like you and then after a few days I cracked... I know Hazel wouldn't be able to resist!

[My Friend Jack]

Christ - I can't even remember anything about a coffin!

[Hazel]

I was like you and then after a few days I cracked... I know Hazel wouldn't be able to resist!

Oh, I didn't resist for a second Jeremy, but having not watched anything apart from the first episode of Series 3, it means nothing to me. Come December the 25th, when hubby is getting the box set from 'Santa', I may regret clicking your spoiler. Oo-er.

[David]

Come December the 25th, when hubby is getting the box set from 'Santa'...
And I take it 'Santa' is going to leave the sleigh on the roof and ignore the rest of the deliveries so 'he' can settle down in the sofa and watch his gift? Ah, giving truly is so much more rewarding than receiving, eh....?

;)

[Hazel]

And I take it 'Santa' is going to leave the sleigh on the roof and ignore the rest of the deliveries so 'he' can settle down in the sofa and watch his gift? Ah, giving truly is so much rewarding than receiving, eh....?

;)

Spot on, David, and I foresee a bottle of Baileys in Santa's hand.

[David]

Oh dear. It looks like the writers' strike is rapidly having an impact on series like this. Rather bad news - for Heroes as well.

SFX - Lost (http://www.sfx.co.uk/page/sfx?entry=half_season_lost)

[Bill]

So does anyone know when Sky are planning to start showing Season 4? It looks like the writers' strike might affect their plans though.

[David]

There's a trailer for the new season of Lost here (http://www.sfx.co.uk/page/sfx?entry=lost_season_four_trailer) if you want to see it.

[My Friend Jack]

Thanks, David, that has whetted my appetite!

[David]

There's now a much longer trailer which I must admit looks darned good. I'll say this for them: whilst the frustration of each answered mystery leading to about four new ones is at times a big weakness in the series, they do at least manage to redefine it with each year's story. There's a very different feel each time and that seems to be exactly the case here.

Only 8 episodes, though? Bl**dy writers' strike!

See it here (http://www.sfx.co.uk/page/sfx?entry=extended_lost_season_four_trailer).

[My Friend Jack]

Love it, love it, love it!

[David]

Satisfying to note that in the nominations list by the Directors Guild of America the award for outstanding directorial achievement in drama has 2 Lost episodes beside 2 Sopranos episodes (the remaining slot is for a pilot, Mad Men, about which I know nothing).

I think this reflects the fact that whilst there are well-worn points about the frustrations of not having the mysteries answered, the quality of the drama remains. It certainly rode through my period of doubt and has unquestionably been worth sticking with. Terry O'Quinn's Emmy for his performance as Locke also points to the quality this series still maintains.

[Jeremy DEagle]

I believe series 4 starts in Feb but apparently lost is struggling in America recently, people are apparently getting a bit sick of it not getting anywhere.

[Stewart]

I believe series 4 starts in Feb but apparently lost is struggling in America recently, people are apparently getting a bit sick of it not getting anywhere.
January 30th, for eight episodes only, due to the writers' strike. Feb in the UK. I'm surprised people belive it's not getting anywhere as it has come a hell of a long way since the first episode - there's a general impatience to know why they are there, etc. but that's the backbone of the show and to reveal it so early would no doubt make further episodes pointless. It has a definite conclusion pencilled in for a later season, they should roll with the show till then.

[Jeremy DEagle]

January 30th, for eight episodes only, due to the writers' strike. Feb in the UK. I'm surprised people belive it's not getting anywhere as it has come a hell of a long way since the first episode - there's a general impatience to know why they are there, etc. but that's the backbone of the show and to reveal it so early would no doubt make further episodes pointless. It has a definite conclusion pencilled in for a later season, they should roll with the show till then.

I'm not so sure. Certain things reared their head and disappeared. For example, what the hell was it that sounded like a dinosaur and knocked down trees when they first landed? That seems to have vanished. There was, for a time, an obsession with showing items that were black and white, where has that gone?

I think the way Heroes handled things was far better. Its a clear conclusion reached but with and longer reaching story, it doesn't leave you completely frustrated for days/weeks/months on end.

Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy Lost a great deal but it does wind me up.

[David]

For example, what the hell was it that sounded like a dinosaur and knocked down trees when they first landed?
I think that was the black cloud - we only thought it was some sort of dinosaur creature when we couldn't see it. Whilst it hasn't appeared much it's very much still there - indeed in a particularly shocking moment in season 3.

[Hazel]

SPOILERS WITHIN
Just in case anyone hasn't watched Season 3 yet - please look away now!

In the last episode when we clearly see flash-forwards of Jack after leaving the islands - when he has a beard, is off the rails, and goes to a funeral of an unknown-to-us man - he clearly tells a pharmacist that his prescription for drugs was issued by his father. Then he tells a doc at the hospital who tells him to go home for being drunk that he should bring down Jack's father and if he is any less drunk than Jack, then the doc is welcome to fire Jack.

Now, I have puzzled on this for a wee while, cause it appears in the future that Jack's dad is alive, which can't be right as Jack is on Flight 815 to take home his dad's body. Having discussed this with a friend, we came up with no explanation. Hubby thought that Jack was just 'joking' when he made those comments, or just in such a state of drink and druG intoxication that he got confused. I even thought that the miraculous power of the island was such that everything you lost was restored to you when you left. Or somehow you were put back in time to correct the wrongs that brought you onto Flight 815. Okay...I was stretching.

And so it took, 2 computer geeks in hubby's work to come up with the answer. In series 1, when Jack tracks down his dad's coffin, it was empty. Empty, goddammit! Of course - how could I have forgotten that?! Okay -we still don't have all the answers but remembering that has helped a lot. Talk about the blinding obvious.

[Jeremy DEagle]

SPOILERS WITHIN
Just in case anyone hasn't watched Season 3 yet - please look away now!

In the last episode when we clearly see flash-forwards of Jack after leaving the islands - when he has a beard, is off the rails, and goes to a funeral of an unknown-to-us man - he clearly tells a pharmacist that his prescription for drugs was issued by his father. Then he tells a doc at the hospital who tells him to go home for being drunk that he should bring down Jack's father and if he is any less drunk than Jack, then the doc is welcome to fire Jack.

Now, I have puzzled on this for a wee while, cause it appears in the future that Jack's dad is alive, which can't be right as Jack is on Flight 815 to take home his dad's body. Having discussed this with a friend, we came up with no explanation. Hubby thought that Jack was just 'joking' when he made those comments, or just in such a state of drink and druG intoxication that he got confused. I even thought that the miraculous power of the island was such that everything you lost was restored to you when you left. Or somehow you were put back in time to correct the wrongs that brought you onto Flight 815. Okay...I was stretching.

And so it took, 2 computer geeks in hubby's work to come up with the answer. In series 1, when Jack tracks down his dad's coffin, it was empty. Empty, goddammit! Of course - how could I have forgotten that?! Okay -we still don't have all the answers but remembering that has helped a lot. Talk about the blinding obvious.

Maybe he was just lying about his dad having signed it and he had really signed the prescription himself?

[Hazel]

Maybe he was just lying about his dad having signed it and he had really signed the prescription himself?

Yes, that was a suggestion hubby threw up, but he didn't seem duplicitous, and then his next comment to the black doctor wasn't with madness or grief - it was a calm reasoning, like his dad actually was upstairs operating.

[David]

Hmmmm, I'd forgotten about the empty coffin part, although to be honest that doesn't really answer it. This would mean he'd found resurrected Dad, they'd left the island and gone back to their old lives, with Dad as much of an alcoholic as ever even after 'dying' from it.

Those flash-forward scenes just don't add up. It's difficult to see how the series could continue away from the island and once you've left you can't find your way back.

Still, the island certainly does have 'reviving' powers - Mikhail can't be killed, it appears. Plus it can bring people to you, such as Locke's father. I can't help but feel this particular strand with the 'future' is going to end up as a bit of a curve ball - possibly a slightly cheaty one.

I'm still most intrigued by the brief appearance of Walt when Locke's in the pit. When he finally does appear again for explanations he's going to be an adult!

[Jeremy DEagle]

Yes, that was a suggestion hubby threw up, but he didn't seem duplicitous,

Apart from stealing medication!

Or did you mean your husband :P

[Hazel]

Hmmmm, I'd forgotten about the empty coffin part, although to be honest that doesn't really answer it. This would mean he'd found resurrected Dad, they'd left the island and gone back to their old lives, with Dad as much of an alcoholic as ever even after 'dying' from it.



What if - and go with this - his dad never actually died and he was flying an empty coffin home? I can't recall if he actually viewed his dad's body. His dad was a pretty shady guy all in all, though he appears to have tried his best to put wrongs right re Claire. What if he faked his death as some sort of payment for Claire and her comatosed mum? What of a mistake was made in Syndey? We don't know for sure how far in the future the flash-forward is - he might have come to terms with his dad being alive, and that issue might be resolved.

Oh and yes...any quesses to who is in the coffin in the future? Clearly someone who affects Jack but Kate doesn't care too much about.

[Hazel]

Apart from stealing medication!

Or did you mean your husband :P

:D

But was he actually stealing it? He had a valid prescription that couldn't be filled as he had used it up, and he offered what appeared to be a valid repeat signed by his father. He walked away, admittedly in a huff, when the pharmacist refused.

[Jeremy DEagle]

I believe, before my recent sabatical, that I posted who was supposedly in the coffin hidden by spoiler tags.

[David]

What if ...
Hmmmm. Well possibly, I s'pose! :D

I think it would have been quite a feat to fool the Australian authorities to that extent (pass another body off as his maybe, but an empty coffin?). I'd be surprised if the explanation was as non-island as that: surely it's going to tie in with the mysterious effects the island has?

Still, it's possible, Hazel. I wish I still had the final episode on my Sky-box to have another look. The surprise of the ending meant I wasn't focusing on the right things when I was watching those future scenes as if they were a normal flashback.

[Hazel]

I believe, before my recent sabatical, that I posted who was supposedly in the coffin hidden by spoiler tags.

So you did, and I read it too. Actually, I had forgotten what you said, and at the end of watching the third series I said to hubby that the body was either Ben, as you said or Locke.

Abd BTW, J-D, a most welcome return from your sabbatical. Don't leave us again.

[Cootisms]

I got this for Christmas, even though I only saw the first 6/7 eps (up to Desmond's weird flashback/forward episode that totally confused me, after which we lost Sky) and watched it all in a few days. Had no idea the flashforwards were supposed to be flashforwards-how could you tell? I thought the coffin scene was some kind of formality funeral in Sydney, for his dad & Kate & Jack had dated at some point, as Kate's been married at least once & seems to get romantically involved with guys quite a lot. I'm looking forward to finding out what happens in Season 4, as there's still a heck of a lot that makes less than no sense to me!

[Hazel]

IHad no idea the flashforwards were supposed to be flashforwards-how could you tell?

The final scene when Kate meets Jack at the fence of an airport runway, he says that they made a mistake leaving the island and that he just wants to go back. He says he takes frequent flights on the unlimited traveller ticket that the airline provided by way of compensation for the crash, (and subsequent abandonment presumably!), and on each one he prays that the plane will crash and he will find himself back on the island.

[Hazel]

I'd be surprised if the explanation was as non-island as that: surely it's going to tie in with the mysterious effects the island has?

That, I grant you - it would be odd if it was a real-world explanation, but nothing's impossible. Lost has certainly taught us that. I am just pleased that despite the huge amount of hype surrounding this show when it first aired, it is still delivering gripping drama that leaves lots to talk about.

[Cootisms]

I must have missed the bit about leaving the island!
Did anyone else have major shivers up their spine when whoever it was (Naomi?) said all the passengers of fligght 815 perished & the plane wreckage was found?

[Hazel]

Did anyone else have major shivers up their spine when whoever it was (Naomi?) said all the passengers of fligght 815 perished & the plane wreckage was found?

Oh yes, that was a good bit. No conspiracy theories thought about that as in the flash-forward Jack mentions the unlimited traveller tickets given to them by the airline as compensation. Still, would quite like to have Naomi's comments explained fully.

[My Friend Jack]

It doesn't look as if anyone has started a thread on Series 4, so I will do so now...